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Susan Van Kirk

I first โ€œmetโ€ Susan Van Kirk through Sisters in Crime, Guppies (the great unpublished). Since that time, we have shared our โ€œfinding a publisherโ€ stories, our highs and lows, and an editor.

Susanโ€™s first book was The Education of a Teacher (2010), a creative, non-fiction memoir about teaching. Three May Take a Secret (2014), set in the fictional small town of Endurance, Illinois, is her first published mystery novel.

Judy: Grace Kimball, a recently retired teacher in the small town of Endurance, is the protagonist in Three May Keep a Secret. Youโ€™re a retired teacher, but Iโ€™m pretty sure you have never been involved in solving the murder of a former colleague. How did you come up with the idea?

Susan: When I left college and began teaching in a nearby town, I was shocked to hear that a friend had died tragically in a fire in her off-campus house. Two of her roommates survived because they had left for classes. That was 46 years ago, but the memory surfaced when I decided to write my first mystery. I wondered how I would feel if I had been a survivor of such a fire. When my book opens, Grace has just retired and is feeling a bit anxious. Every time sheโ€™s unsure of herself, the nightmare about โ€œher fireโ€ comes back to her.

Judy: As an educator, youโ€™re used to doing research. How important is that in your writing?

Susan: A great deal of research goes into a novel before I even write a word, although I only use about 30% of the research Iโ€™ve gathered. However, the knowledge gained still informs the atmosphere of my novels.

For the first novel, I combed college archives in two local colleges, did research in three libraries, one genealogy department, two newspapers, and the county courthouse. I interviewed the local fire chief, chief-of-police, coroner, and a former student who is now a homicide/sexually-based-crimes detective in Ames, Iowa. I also studied several cold case files because I had to create some cold cases for Three May Keep a Secret.

Judy: Getting a debut novel published by a traditional press is challenging in todayโ€™s market. Tell me a little about your publishing journey, and how you found Five Star Mysteries.

Susan: You and I have discussed this on occasion, Judy, because it is so hard to get a first novel published. We have shared a freelance editor, Lourdes Venard, and she was a huge help in my publishing journey. I felt more confident because she had already edited my draft. Since you have to send in the best draft you can write, I felt it was worth paying an editor to work on it. Beyond that, she has given me great advice.

I also thought looking for an agent made the most sense. But, seriously, agents arenโ€™t interested in you until you sell a minimum of 60,000 copies of a book [this statistic is from an agent.] But I blithely went my merry way querying about 60-70 agents. It took a lot of time and gained me nothing. Ifย I heard anything at all, it was โ€œDear Author, We have considered your novel and are afraid we are not a good fit at this time. But good luck with your writing.โ€ I think I actually heard back from ten of those agents, always with generic emails.

Next, I made a list of small presses that will take submissions without agents. Five Star was at the top of my list. The acquisitions editor said she โ€œmoved me to the top of the slush pile because I followed directions to the letter on my formatting.โ€ As you know, publishing houses often have their own formatting rules. Within two weeks, she sent an email with their intentions to buy my book. She said we were โ€œa good fit.โ€ Now they have bought the second book in the series and told me to write a third. I feel unusually lucky because I donโ€™t think it generally happens this quickly.

I believe you have to do everything you can to write correct queries, follow directions, research your agents or publishers, and be patientโ€”a quality I donโ€™t have in much abundance. But, sometimes, it takes a little luck too.

Judy: What was it like to revisit Endurance with a new story, and does the process get any easier?

Susan: The process has definitely become easier. You get into a rhythm when youโ€™re writing, and itโ€™s easier to go back to this town each time. I pushed myself hard on Marry in Haste (Book Two), because it has a double plot about two women who lived years apart in Endurance: one in 1893, and one in 2012. Iโ€™ve become especially attached to this story because it allowed me to trace the townโ€™s history over time. The buildings change and the businesses change to produce products for the times. I think Iโ€™m a historian at heart. The writing is definitely stronger and more confident now that one book is already out. I learned so much writing the first book.

Judy: Whatโ€™s a typical writing day in the life of Susan Van Kirk?

Susan: Iโ€™m not sure I have a typical day. I begin a book with an idea, and then I consider whether it will work and what directions it might take. This is mainly thinking time. My next step is what research I will need to do to put in the underlying details to make the story accurate. Then I begin the plotting and the writing. Yes, I am an outliner. Once I start writing, I try to spend time in my mornings writing, and time in my afternoons editing. But some days I play duplicate bridge.

Thank you, Susan.

Find Susan Van Kirk at http://susanvankirk.com.

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